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2092: SG11 Clarification

Spencer Vaughan (Event Partner)
7-Aug-2024

<SG11> <G15>

Hello! I just wanted to seek some clarification on the below scenario:

In the last 14 seconds of a match, BLUE1 is attempting to descore a mobile stake with 6 Red rings from a Positive corner, in this time frame, RED1 pushes BLUE1 into the corner such that BLUE1 tips over the goal so that it is leaning on the robot. RED1 than backs away from BLUE1 with 10 seconds remaining.

BLUE1 is currently in a position where if it moves, the mobile stake will tip so that the rings will be touching the foam tiles and no longer count as scored. What should take place in the following scenarios:

  1. BLUE1 remains in the corner to prevent descoring the rings on the stake, but are not actively trying to leave the protected corner and continue to violate SG11.
  2. BLUE1 leaves the corner as soon as the hold ends, causing the rings to contact the ground and become match-affecting.

Would G15 come into play in this situation as RED1 forced the opponent into a position where they had to violate a rule?

Similarly, if no holding was taking place and the blue robot drove into the corner in the last 14 seconds and got caught in the situation above where a stake was resting on it, how would the above two scenarios play out?

Cheers,

G15  
Answered by committee
19-Aug-2024

What should take place in the following scenarios:

  1. BLUE1 remains in the corner to prevent descoring the rings on the stake, but are not actively trying to leave the protected corner and continue to violate SG11.

Because RED1 forced BLUE1 into this violation, BLUE1 should not be penalized in this scenario based on rule <G15>, which states that “You can’t force an opponent into a penalty. Intentional strategies that cause an opponent to break a rule are not permitted, and will not result in a Violation for the opposing Alliance.” RED1 should receive a Minor Violation of <G15>.

  1. BLUE1 leaves the corner as soon as the hold ends, causing the rings to contact the ground and become match-affecting.

This outcome of this scenario is similar, although in this case the forced Violation changes the outcome of the Match. Because the interaction changes the outcome in favor of the not-guilty Team, the end result should still be a Minor Violation of <G15> to RED1, and no penalty to BLUE1. Had the Match outcome been changed in favor of RED1, they’d instead get a Major Violation as described in the Violation Note for <G15>.

Similarly, if no holding was taking place and the blue robot drove into the corner in the last 14 seconds and got caught in the situation above where a stake was resting on it, how would the above two scenarios play out?

If BLUE1 contacts a Placed Mobile Goal in a Positive Corner during the final 10 seconds of a Match and were not forced into the Violation by an opponent, the appropriate penalty will depend on whether their <SG11> Violation affected the final outcome of the Match. If the outcome isn’t changed, it’s likely a Minor <SG11> Violation. If the outcome changes, it’s by definition a Major <SG11> Violation.