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Official Q&A: VEX V5 Robotics Competition 2024-2025: High Stakes

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2500: High Stake Match Affecting Calculations


5225A
3-Feb-2025

<SG9>

Hello,

As more teams begin to build higher tier hangs, we had some questions regarding the point values in certain scenarios.

The scenario is as follows:

A red robot has a third-tier elevation climb and has proven in previous matches that they are capable of scoring on the high stake. They begin their climb, by latching onto the first rung now meeting the definition of climbed(it has intentionally grasped, grabbed, or attached itself to a rung).

A blue robot recognizes this.

  1. If blue allows the red robot to ascend to the third tier, and score on the high stake, red would earn 20 points.
  2. If the blue robot decides to slightly knock the red robot off of the first rung(and no damage is done to the red robot), they would receive a violation per SG9. According to Q&A 2552, “it should be assumed that the Violation was Match Affecting if awarding the opposing Alliance the 12 points for a Tier 3 Climb (in place of any Climb points they actually earned in the Match, and regardless of the Robot's capabilities) would result in either them winning or tying the Match.” Due to this, a blue robot is incentivized by the rules to remove opponents from the ladder(given no other rules are broken and no damage is caused to the opponent).

For example, if Blue Alliance was currently winning by 13 points, and saw the red robot attempting a hang with a ring in possession, they knew knocking their robot off of the bar would win them the match. However, allowing them to continue and score onto the high stake(as they have displayed in previous matches) would lose them the match.

So, if a robot has clearly displayed they are capable of scoring the high stake, and a robot has removed them from the ladder violating SG9, how many points would be awarded to determine if it’s match affecting?

As a separate follow-up question, Q&A 2282 states the high stake bonus(SC9) is not provided in skills matches. However with the update to the rule(of an additional 3 points), and the Vex V5RC Hub(acknowledging it’s unofficial) including these 3 points in a skills match, does the ruling of Q&A 2282 remain or has the point value of the high stake bonus changed in skills?

Thank you for your time

Answered by committee
6-Feb-2025

Our response to Q&A 2252 applies, and specifies that the Violation should be considered Match Affecting "if awarding the opposing Alliance the 12 points for a Tier 3 Climb (in place of any Climb points they actually earned in the Match, and regardless of the Robot's capabilities) would result in either them winning or tying the Match." This would include Robots capable of scoring a Ring on the High Stake.

Scoring values for Skills Matches were not changed in the January 28, 2025, game manual update.